Are cuck-Hubbies Born or Made?

[tomascini]

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I got a question from a cuck hubby two days ago who asked me this question:

"Dear Master SHANGO, please help me out with this question. I'm a MWM, married to a sexy wife who I want to cuck me. I don't know why I want this, but I've wanted it for so long. Pls tell me, do you think white bois like me are submissive from birth, or do we get made this way somehow?"

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Have any of you ever thought of wondering about such type of question before?

 

[djaam]

Master Sir,

Great question from Master Shango ! At least generation after generation, it seems the number of white cuck-hubbies is increasing. So though being a born gay sub to Black Men, i would say there is some "natural" at one point, rooted in the white male psyche to look at a Black Man as the Alpha male. This could be deeply recovered by society, education, life and so most white guys won't be conscious of that.
Some will have this closer in their consciousness wether from the birth on like me or later due to some event. The IR porn is one of these events that can make the idea grow in the white hubby's mind, an encounter etc.


Education plays a part so in developping what was hidden, in making pssible what was repressed as an impossible dirty fantasy. One of my former African God had the same process : He was a bisexual Dominant in His mind, in His dreams until He read, watched TV programs and movies about domination - still believing He would never had the chance Himself - and we met and He was thrilled because of my natural submission to Him. He explored this side of His personality intensely then and with gusto

So a situation, a school for white hubbies to be made aware of their deeply rooted need to submit as cuck and more to the Alpha Male The Black Man would be a perfect goal for Master Shango and a plus for us in this white world.

 

[Sperm_Wars]

Some of my quick thoughts about it.

Taking any interracial aspect away from it. We all are strongly hard wired into the drive for mates and the fear of losing out. Maybe some people are more genetically predisposed to sexualizing these fears than others, but I still think you have to open that pandora's box.
Putting the interracial aspect back into the equation. If your already sexualizing these fears, a man of a different race to you may well send these fears into hyperdrive. They are not just competition, but something you can never be.
So why are so many white guys into IR cuckolding and not vice versa ?
Firstly I imagine there are more black, asian, pacific islanders etc excited by these feelings than is thought.
I would say there is a lot of historical, cultural and economic reasons there, as well as people of other races dominating certain physical sports at the top end, feeding into those fears.

So ultimately I am thinking that the potential is in some of us regardless of race, however the environment and a persons willingness to explore such feelings has a big impact.

 

[djaam]

Some of my quick thoughts about it.

Taking any interracial aspect away from it. We all are strongly hard wired into the drive for mates and the fear of losing out. Maybe some people are more genetically predisposed to sexualizing these fears than others, but I still think you have to open that pandora's box.
Putting the interracial aspect back into the equation. If your already sexualizing these fears, a man of a different race to you may well send these fears into hyperdrive. They are not just competition, but something you can never be.
So why are so many white guys into IR cuckolding and not vice versa ?
Firstly I imagine there are more black, asian, pacific islanders etc excited by these feelings than is thought.
I would say there is a lot of historical, cultural and economic reasons there, as well as people of other races dominating certain physical sports at the top end, feeding into those fears.

So ultimately I am thinking that the potential is in some of us regardless of race, however the environment and a persons willingness to explore such feelings has a big impact.

The fact remains, at least from random observation of sites, that IR cuckolding goes more with white men than others. It evidently connected with "race" and history/society. The white man has been nicknamed The Man by African Americans for a long time because whites had the power at hand.
The attraction of this type of IR cuckolding is an obvious reversal and transgression of this pattern.
That is what is making it so spicy and if you think like me that it is the Black Man's turn to be "The Man", you will cheer up at such a trend and want it expanded. 8)
i think that was the idea of Master Shango.

 

[tomascini]

Yes, indeed. Too many white bois have the pleasure of knowing their real self through this sure means.

 

[wsta4all]

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I got a question from a cuck hubby two days ago who asked me this question:

"Dear Master SHANGO, please help me out with this question. I'm a MWM, married to a sexy wife who I want to cuck me. I don't know why I want this, but I've wanted it for so long. Pls tell me, do you think white bois like me are submissive from birth, or do we get made this way somehow?"

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Have any of you ever thought of wondering about such type of question before?

I have been a student of Natural Law for more than 30yrs.

During that time and continuing forthwith, I have determined that each of us are cognitive of Nature's plethora of attributes, which each individual seeks to satisfy life's need to interact, for survival sexually. Many factors can determine the level of equality existing between all walks of life. But none more than the natural physical attributes each brings to the forefront, when seeking physical interaction, for our natural need to worship.

It matters little, whether such physical attributes come in inanimate art form or the flesh so to speak.

So, physical attributes are a necessary natural right, which life provides as a means to propel the species into continued viability via our natural intrinsic desires to worship such physical attributes...plain and simple. To deny such observations, would be to deny Natural Law! And when Natural Law is ignored, only chaos ensues!

So, it is better for society as a whole, to accept every form of worship, which support the peaceful worship each may desire. In this manner, life will continue to progress as a sustainable species.

In today's world historically, a families home is their castle. It may be said without reservation, the same can be said in this fashion,...when it appertains to the proper setting for individual or family beliefs to be formalized in to ritual worship. Meaning: Every families Castle is their Temple of Worship, for worshiping the gods of their choice and as their family chooses....!

To deny this natural absolute right, to have reasonable recourse to the gods, would be tantamount to spreading genocide of the species. Something that none of us should ever condone.

But in respect to whether cuckolds are born or learn through life or otherwise....

Without a doubt, a cuckold is a free choice! I believe it can be said with equal force, cuckolds are Mother Nature's only true pansexuals. Without their love for all walks of life, chaos would reign!

As a parting expression of devotion to our Master SHANGO, please accept our prayer.....

Humbly divine Master….our family are your hearts, minds and bodies, as fuck-meat solely dedicated to the Black Gods & Goddesses sexual forces. Our homes are their Temples of Worship, as the Altar of Pleasures upon and within which, we worship the Black Gods & Goddesses since our nativity.

As a White Altar Bitch-boy, may we crawl in holy prostration, seeking our wife’s Chalice of Devotion, so that I may properly tongue bath her, paying homage with adoring and zealous worship, to slaking up every droplet of divinity of our Black God’s, while praising their Divine Scepters, for their divine recumpense, that we receive for our family’s sacrificial offering?

Our family has honored the Black Gods & Goddesses, by giving a long train of our family, dedicated in their sexual worship, by providing constantly kept perfectly swollen, properly prepared fuck-meat, for the divine worship of our Black Gods & Goddesses pleasure.

We am not worthy thou should-st cum unto our body, excepting Thy Will, to allow our family to share in thy divine sacrament of Divine Black God Nectar. Say but the Word and my family service is Thine. Direct us, accordingly, after thine own heart and lead us into thy pleasure…lol….!

Always moistly gracious,
WSTA Alumni.

 

[firedrop2007]

My opinion, a little of both. Both parties in marriage need to be willing and accepting otherwise it isn't going to happen or if it does the marriage isn't going to last.

The idea might be hot but reality isn't as pretty.

 

[nikki]

My opinion, a little of both. Both parties in marriage need to be willing and accepting otherwise it isn't going to happen or if it does the marriage isn't going to last.

The idea might be hot but reality isn't as pretty.

After seeing my hubby in (in)action these last few years, I think they are mostly made.

My husband is deeply insecure, which I think comes from his childhood. Nothing he ever did was good enough, so he feels like he is incapable of pleasing anyone, he and I most of all.

As to reality not being as pretty as fantasy, that is true, too. I think my hubby imagined only the fantasy and had no idea the hard truths he was going to have to face about himself. I think he also hoped we would do it once and it would be over. But you know the saying.

It's made me ask hard questions about myself, too. What kind of woman am I to keep treating the man I supposedly love this way? Am I doing more good for us by admitting our mutual needs – his for insecurity and my sadist streak? Or am I just reinforcing our worst traits?

I know this – I have formed a bond with my lover that I am not giving up. I need them both in my life now. And even if my hubby was made this way, staying in this relationship keeps him this way.

 

[tomascini]

This is something a lot of hubbies are struggling to come to terms with, without really knowing.

 

[tonyafox]

Well here's my 2 cents.
Replying to the original question "are they born or made?".
Well a little of both, that side of them just has to be encouraged and developed.
Similar to us women, the slutty side is supressed and just has to be released.
It's only natural that we seek out the strongest, most virile mate and that just happens to be Black Men.
But society used to frown on this but now the tide has turned and now actively encourages it, thanks to high profile white female celebs leading the way.
White bois can see the sexual evolution and either choose to support the lifestyle or risk loosing their women who want the freedom to choose to expand their sexual horizon and enjoy superior sex.
Life is too short to be committed to boring vanilla sex . . . .

 

[Slave0666]

After seeing my hubby in (in)action these last few years, I think they are mostly made.

My husband is deeply insecure, which I think comes from his childhood. Nothing he ever did was good enough, so he feels like he is incapable of pleasing anyone, he and I most of all.

As to reality not being as pretty as fantasy, that is true, too. I think my hubby imagined only the fantasy and had no idea the hard truths he was going to have to face about himself. I think he also hoped we would do it once and it would be over. But you know the saying.

It's made me ask hard questions about myself, too. What kind of woman am I to keep treating the man I supposedly love this way? Am I doing more good for us by admitting our mutual needs – his for insecurity and my sadist streak? Or am I just reinforcing our worst traits?

I know this – I have formed a bond with my lover that I am not giving up. I need them both in my life now. And even if my hubby was made this way, staying in this relationship keeps him this way.

I think they are made too. Being insecure myself, I can relate to what your husband experienced, I think that is psychologically connected to this fetish. I have always had a big fear of humiliation also, which I think might also play a role. I often wonder though, what role sexuality plays. Is your husband bi? I think that I am and that this also plays into the whole thing. I don't know if I was born that way.

About the race aspect, I admit that on occasion I fantasize about hung white bulls too, but not as much as black.

I think you are a sadist, I'm not judging you or saying that that is a bad thing, but I think that the women who cuckold their boyfriends and enjoy it are tapping into a built in sadistic urge inside them. I think that is hard wired in women, I've seen it many times manifest itself in other ways. I think that certain situations bring that to the surface.

Honestly, I really doubt that I would ever actually indulge in acting these fantasies out with a woman that I was in love with. I have told a female friend who is a dominatrix, and who is really just a friend, that I would like to role play with some of these fantasies. She said that she'd be into it sometime. If it ever goes down I would pretend that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. But like I said, I don't think I would ever want to actually do this with someone that I had genuine feelings for.

 

[tonyafox]

I can hear what you are saying, but from a woman's point of view, we are programed to seek out the strongest Alpha Male to mate with and that just happens to be Black Males.
Now some choose to supress this instinct and always wonder what it would be like, while others embrace their instincts and find a superior sexual mate, while keeping the white male for financial security and social acceptance.

Insecurity is the key word here, if that is present in a marriage then it's doomed whatever you do.
Only if both partners are secure with the relationship can you let her explore her true sexuality.
And when you think about it, if you are truly devoted to your woman would you not want her to enjoy the best sex?

Look deep into your heart and you know that means that she would have to take a Black lover to experience that.
Excuse my rant, but I've just finished a rather nice bottle of white wine and . . . .

 

[Slave0666]

Just as an aside, something else that I think about when it comes to the psychology of cuckoldry. With one very rare exception, when I fantasize about it I imagine all participants wearing masks. I don't want to see a guys face and I don't want him to see mine. I don't want the embarrassment of possibly being recognized outside of the fantasy. I also really don't like seeing men's faces. This might be why a lot of guys get turned on at the though of seeing their lady suck a huge cock through a gloryhole. Maybe I'm alone in this.

 

[Slave0666]

I can hear what you are saying, but from a woman's point of view, we are programed to seek out the strongest Alpha Male to mate with and that just happens to be Black Males.
Now some choose to supress this instinct and always wonder what it would be like, while others embrace their instincts and find a superior sexual mate, while keeping the white male for financial security and social acceptance.

Insecurity is the key word here, if that is present in a marriage then it's doomed whatever you do.
Only if both partners are secure with the relationship can you let her explore her true sexuality.
And when you think about it, if you are truly devoted to your woman would you not want her to enjoy the best sex?

Look deep into your heart and you know that means that she would have to take a Black lover to experience that.
Excuse my rant, but I've just finished a rather nice bottle of white wine and . . . .

I think you're right. My marriage ended a couple of years ago. I know that it was due in large part to the insecurity. I found out that she had been having an almost 2 year long affair with a friend of ours (a white guy with a big cock.) It happened to be someone who I had fantasized about her screwing and she was aware of this. It was all behind my back, so there was no indulging in my fantasy, had they decided to make me watch, we might actually still be together. All fantasy and literotica talk aside, she not only hurt me but ended up hurting herself. The guy was an idiot and she does actually regret that I left.

 

[tonyafox]

Putting all fantasies aside, if you are going to pursue this lifestyle one thing you have to have is transparency.
If both partners are involved and supportive of each other, it can be an incredible adventure and lead to sexual situations beyond your imagination.
Literally every night has the potential for an explosive situation (and I do mean explosive!)

Sneaking around only leads to ill feelings and suspicion which will eventually eat away at even the strongest of relationships.
Trust me, come clean and play with all your cards on the table.

And ladies, always make sure to involve your boi, if only to clean up that load from your lover.
Keep him involved and if he behaves, let him watch.
Or rather MAKE him watch.
It's up to you if that's his reward or punishment

 

[nikki]

I think they are made too. Being insecure myself, I can relate to what your husband experienced, I think that is psychologically connected to this fetish. I have always had a big fear of humiliation also, which I think might also play a role. I often wonder though, what role sexuality plays. Is your husband bi? I think that I am and that this also plays into the whole thing. I don't know if I was born that way.

About the race aspect, I admit that on occasion I fantasize about hung white bulls too, but not as much as black.

I think you are a sadist, I'm not judging you or saying that that is a bad thing, but I think that the women who cuckold their boyfriends and enjoy it are tapping into a built in sadistic urge inside them. I think that is hard wired in women, I've seen it many times manifest itself in other ways. I think that certain situations bring that to the surface.

Honestly, I really doubt that I would ever actually indulge in acting these fantasies out with a woman that I was in love with. I have told a female friend who is a dominatrix, and who is really just a friend, that I would like to role play with some of these fantasies. She said that she'd be into it sometime. If it ever goes down I would pretend that we were boyfriend and girlfriend. But like I said, I don't think I would ever want to actually do this with someone that I had genuine feelings for.

My husband insists that he is straight, but I think he is at least bi. He tells me the fantasy has "evolved" to include him kneeling along side me, but neither my lover or I want that to happen.

Race is a motivator for me. My daddy was publicly accepting and privately racist as hell. He would say things like if blacks and latinos have their own communities, why do they have to live in mine? He said black a lot, but he said it with hate and meanness.

I fantasized a lot about black boys when I was younger …

I can hear what you are saying, but from a woman's point of view, we are programed to seek out the strongest Alpha Male to mate with and that just happens to be Black Males.
Now some choose to supress this instinct and always wonder what it would be like, while others embrace their instincts and find a superior sexual mate, while keeping the white male for financial security and social acceptance.

Tonya is so right there. When I was a teenager, I had this uncontrollable, magnetic attraction to hot black guys. It was so natural, so biological, my only instinct was to try to deny it. But they knew. I wanted them and they wanted me, but, as Tonya said, I suppressed it and wondered what it would be like.

I never thought about it until just now, but I think some of my interest in my husband was that denial playing out. I picked a man so white, so weak, so desperate to please. Huh. I just blew my own mind!

He said his biggest fantasy was for me to be with a black man. Eventually, I needed to do it and I had a husband begging me to.

If I made him a cuck, he made me a black cock slut. I needed that push or I'm not sure I ever would've tried.

 

[Slave0666]

I am actually very turned on by this discussion. Much more so than looking at 10 pages of captioned creampie pics.

My husband insists that he is straight, but I think he is at least bi. He tells me the fantasy has "evolved" to include him kneeling along side me, but neither my lover or I want that to happen.

Race is a motivator for me. My daddy was publicly accepting and privately racist as hell. He would say things like if blacks and latinos have their own communities, why do they have to live in mine? He said ni**er a lot, but he said it with hate and meanness.

I fantasized a lot about black boys when I was younger …

I can hear what you are saying, but from a woman's point of view, we are programed to seek out the strongest Alpha Male to mate with and that just happens to be Black Males.
Now some choose to supress this instinct and always wonder what it would be like, while others embrace their instincts and find a superior sexual mate, while keeping the white male for financial security and social acceptance.

Tonya is so right there. When I was a teenager, I had this uncontrollable, magnetic attraction to hot black guys. It was so natural, so biological, my only instinct was to try to deny it. But they knew. I wanted them and they wanted me, but, as Tonya said, I suppressed it and wondered what it would be like.

I never thought about it until just now, but I think some of my interest in my husband was that denial playing out. I picked a man so white, so weak, so desperate to please. Huh. I just blew my own mind!

He said his biggest fantasy was for me to be with a black man. Eventually, I needed to do it and I had a husband begging me to.

If I made him a cuck, he made me a black cock slut. I needed that push or I'm not sure I ever would've tried.

I completely agree with Tonya's last post, she is right on the money. And Nikki, like your husband, my fantasies have evolved too, but to the point of fantasizing about some limited male on male contact that I won't go into in the straight section of this forum. 10 years or so ago that didn't seem very arousing. I keep trying to find movies that have that in there and they are few and far between. Most alpha males (I'm thinking of Shane Diesel, but really any big alpha male) aren't into that at all, despite what we all hear about prison.

You do let your husband watch, right? Something I don't like about a lot of the ir cuck movies that are out there is that they like to make the guys wear chastity devices and have them just whimpering in the corner. To me that is no fun. I would like the movie better if the plot was that of a guy acting all indignant about what he is seeing at first but then by the end of it is furiously stroking his little white wee wee since it really was his fantasy. And then, of course, have to clean up after.

I should also mention that from an early age I had a strong attraction to black females, particularly heavier ones. My parents weren't particularly racist, but I was as a teenager, even though I was very attracted to the women. I think this is because they are alpha to someone like me.

 

[tonyafox]

This post is an perfect example of why I think this site is the best.
So many guys out there trying to force their women to get abused by "monster cocks" while we all know the lifestyle is so much more than that.

Trying to supress your instincts will eat you away inside and will only result in a bitter and probably passionless relationship.
I made it perfectly clear to my hubby early on that I needed more than he could provide (in the sex department) and he readily agreed to let me have what he calls "adventures" as long as we are discrete and not jeopardize the family unit.

Would I like to be bred?
Sure when I was younger but not now.
It's a big responsibility and it may be a fantasy but in reality it's fraught with complications.

Yes I do play act with my lovers and literally beg them not to unload inside me, which of course leads to a hot, thick load being pumped inside me but that's part of the game.
One of my turn ons is to plead with my lover NOT to make me preggers which of course ensures that I get a nice load inside.

The Golden Ticket is to have a white boi who worships you and gets off watching you get powerfucked by some Black stud.
But as I've said before, don't ignore your boi.
Let him prepare you, dress you and at the end of your date, clean you out.
It's a win-win situation, but always make sure he is included in your evening, before and after your date.

 

[nikki]

So here's a twist: I asked hubby if he was born a cucky boy or our "arrangement" made him into one and I thought he had a pretty good insight.

He said he was born one and that all white boys are. He said even though he had every advantage in life that whiteness provides, black men are still sexually superior. (True!)

I told him I think they're made. I think it's about environmental and personality factors and the choices we cultivate in our lives. There are some white boys, I said, who don't like this lifestyle.

He replied there's no such thing as a white boy who isn't a cuck, just those who lie to themselves and those who accept the truth. All white boys are inferior.

He said — and this is the part I thought was insightful — that I have to see it that way or else my whole perspective on our arrangement disintegrates.

Hub said by seeing it as a choice, that they are made, I give myself permission to keep our arrangement. If I saw him as being born that way, he thinks I would be more sympathetic to him.

He said by seeing it as a choice, it feeds the fire to insult, belittle and degrade him. I think I'm judging him for his choices instead of who he really is, he said.

He said he knows he's not good enough for me and accepts that I will leave him for a black man because "you can't fight biology, Nikki."

Gave me a lot to think about, my sweet little hubby.

The Golden Ticket is to have a white boi who worships you and gets off watching you get powerfucked by some Black stud.
But as I've said before, don't ignore your boi.
Let him prepare you, dress you and at the end of your date, clean you out.
It's a win-win situation, but always make sure he is included in your evening, before and after your date.

Hubby helps me dress and prepare. Since I cut him off ("only real men deserve my pussy," I told him), he's allowed to lick me clean unless he's been really bad.

You do let your husband watch, right?

He watched all the time at first. Now he does sometimes, but my bf and I prefer to lock the door and make him fantasize about what he hears on the other side.

I've started having him call my bf and beg him to come over for me. "Please, sir. You're so much better and Nikki deserves what you can give her." Mmmm. I think hubby needs to make a call today.

 

[tinydickirishboi]

I'm unfortunately, not a cuckold hubby, so I hope my point is still valid to this debate. I long too be a cuckold now. But this has only been my ambition for maybe three years. My first memories of thinking about black men and white women happened when I was maybe nine. My mother and I were walking our dog and a white woman and a black man were walking hand in hand. My mom said it was disgust and no "real Irish" woman would have anything to do with a black. My family were racist but no different to any white family at that point I would have thought.

Most of my adolescence I was torn. I watch my first hardcore porn at a friends house. There was an IR scene and while all my friends stating how disgusting it was and that the "bitch was a slag" & "a race traitor" I was hard as rock and disgusted with myself.

I didn't actually start admitting I liked watching it till I was in my early 20's and then didn't admit my cuckyness till my early 30's. So I agree with Nikki's hubby, I think all white bois are born to serve BUT most haven't the balls to admit it to themselves